Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/27/1995 03:40 PM Senate RES

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 SRES - 3/27/95                                                                
                                                                               
            HB 128 WASTE DISPOSAL PERMIT EXEMPTION                           
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brought up HB 128 as the next order of business                
 before the Senate Resources Committee.  The chairman asked for a              
 motion to adopt the committee substitute.                                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR FRANK made a motion to adopt the committee substitute for             
 HB 128.                                                                       
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection, stated the committee                    
 substitute had been adopted.                                                  
                                                                               
 JACK PHELPS, Aide to Representative Williams, prime sponsor of HB
 128, stated the committee substitute before the committee contains            
 two amendments suggested at the March 22 meeting of the Senate                
 Resources Committee.  One amendment was a rewrite to simplify                 
 Section 3, which was suggested by the Department of Environmental             
 Conservation.  The other amendment was suggested by the Alaska Oil            
 & Gas Association (AOGA): they were concerned that the bill would             
 give the impression that new permitting authority is being created,           
 which is not the case.  Mr. Phelps reviewed the amendments in                 
 further detail.  On page 2, line 22, an amendment suggested by the            
 Department of Law was made to clarify that disposal is subject to           
 regulation under Title 31.  Also, subsection (g) is a new                     
 subsection.                                                                   
                                                                               
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 MR. PHELPS informed the committee that a drafting error was made on           
 page 2, line 27.                                                              
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN asked which draft the committee was working from.             
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN responded the committee is working from draft H by             
 Chenoweth, dated 3/24/95, which has been adopted as a committee               
 substitute.                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. PHELPS stated the problem with the language on page 2, line 27            
 is that the definition in regulations is to "a point source", not             
 "a point source discharge."  Mr. Phelps suggested changing the                
 language to read, "does not produce a discharge from a point                  
 source, as that term is defined in regulations...."                           
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asked Mr. Phelps if "discharge" is defined in                  
 regulation.                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. PHELPS believes the term "discharge" is defined in regulation.            
                                                                               
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 SENATOR TAYLOR made a motion to adopt Mr. Phelps' suggested                   
 amendment.                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection to the amendment, stated that            
 amendment #1 had been adopted.                                                
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN asked why there is a new fiscal note from the                 
 Department of Fish & Game.                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. PHELPS replied he did not realize ADF&G had submitted a new               
 fiscal note; he did not request it.  Mr. Phelps asked if the fiscal           
 note was substantially different from the fiscal note that came               
 over from the house.                                                          
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN said the fiscal note is still zero, but the                   
 previous fiscal note seemed to support....  Senator Lincoln asked             
 if there was someone from ADF&G who could answer that question.               
                                                                               
 MR. PHELPS stated he would be happy to go find Geron Bruce from               
 ADF&G, but he thinks the changes that occurred in the House                   
 Resources Committee...                                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN said she wasn't going to repeat her question.                 
                                                                               
 MR. PHELPS continued, saying the changes that occurred in House               
 Resources haven't changed in this version of HB 128.                          
                                                                               
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 MR. PHELPS  stated he would be happy to defer to Mr. Bruce.                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN repeated Senator Lincoln's question for Mr. Bruce:             
 she wants to know why the changes made to HB 128 caused the                   
 department to submit a new fiscal note.                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN asked why the endorsement in the fiscal note                  
 analysis has been dropped from the new fiscal note.                           
                                                                               
 GERON BRUCE, Legislative Liaison, Department of Fish & Game, stated           
 the new fiscal note is just an updated fiscal note for the new                
 version of the bill.  It doesn't have any additional impact on the            
 department.  It is still a zero fiscal note.                                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR made a motion to discharge HB 128 from the Senate              
 Resources Committee with individual recommendations.                          
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asked if there were any objections to the motion.              
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR objected, for the purpose of determining whether or            
 not the department opposed the bill.                                          
                                                                               
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 MR. BRUCE responded that the department does not oppose HB 128.  He           
 also apologized for not being present to immediately answer Senator           
 Lincoln's question.                                                           
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR removed his objection.                                         
                                                                               
 SENATOR FRANK asked whether the department supported the bill or              
 not.                                                                          
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN compared Senator Frank's and Senator Taylor's                  
 questions to the difference between non-retention and firing                  
 someone.                                                                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if the committee is still talking about                  
 discharge.                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asked if there was any objection to moving HB 128              
 from committee.  Hearing none, the chairman stated the bill was               
 discharged from the Senate Resources Committee with individual                
 recommendations.                                                              

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